Earlier today Rebellion's Steve Hart told GamerZines that, as result of working on a World War 2 based first-person shooter, he thinks the market is "ready" for more World War 2 based first-person shooters. We were busy filing the news alongside such other timeless headlines as "Publisher not commenting on rumour and speculation" and "Activision quite chuffed with Call of Duty sales, ta", but then a couple of rogue neurones fired, and we found ourselves soberly considering Hart's proposal.
Once upon a time, we'd have scoured the entire World War 2 game genre from reality without thinking twice. Not because it gave rise to terrible memories of hauling bullet-torn comrades through slurry or machine-gunning people on beaches or dousing German bunkers with chemical fire, but because it was ridiculously, ludicrously over-subscribed. You couldn't turn around without falling over a T4 Tank, or into a foxhole packed with deranged farmboys.
Different clichés are in vogue today - clichés wearing night-vision headsets and khaki trousers, armed with rappel lines and barrel-mounted radar - and while we're all down with that, we do occasionally find ourselves hankering for a simpler age. Is it time to give the Second World War a second shot? We've got seven arguments in favour, though we can't guarantee they'll all make sense, be grounded in historical fact, or possess any redeeming humorous qualities whatsoever.




















































20 comments so far...
Clanger67 on 24 Jan '12 said:
Hmm i would like too see one.Haven't played one for a while.Have always been a bit playing catch up for games on 360,so didn't play COD world at war until ages after release.But i am wondering if they can do something we haven't already had.
T1403 on 24 Jan '12 said:
I love the pont on bigger battles, things like Halo Reach- where you can see troops across the landscape blasting at each other, in a WW2 setting would be very scenic indeed. Another point is that it may educate some of the people who think war is "cool" and could get a chance to show the gritty and grimmy side of war- having a real narrative maybe? Or a able length for multiple well thought narratives? Pretty Please?
Plus, anyone up for the "Whack-a-lice" mini game? Or "Spam eating" leaderboards?
Great article
STE MO on 24 Jan '12 said:
No no no no no. Ww2 has been done to death and so has Vietnam, so why not try something else. CoD could do WW1, oh sorry their MO is like WW1 at times, spawn in run round a corner and the campers got, repeat and rinse all night long. I think we need a few more years of not having WW2 shooters to get over them.
golliwoza on 24 Jan '12 said:
Really looking forward to Sniper Elite 2. I would be happy if WW2 shooters kept being released now and again just not en mass like it was 4 years ago. I think the last really good one I played was Medal of Honour Airborne, free roamish maps, paratroops and a big bad german with gas mask and MG42 whats not to like?
livingston on 24 Jan '12 said:
I think it would be more interesting to see more games focused on the Korean war than ww2. Gives it a new angle work with whilst keeping a certain amount of the original Aesthetics associated with ww2.
Pompey78 on 24 Jan '12 said:
Agree with STE MO, a big no from me, I mean the last WW2 game I enjoyed was the original medal of honour or very early COD.
done on every format to death, I even think I have WW2 battle fatigue, the flash backs !!!
Seriously I'm not even that into MW3 or BF3 this time around, completed BF3 and played it online, story while ok didn't grab me and I wanted to give all the main characters a slap/
MW3 I haven't touched the single player much and haven't picked up to play online for over 6 weeks now.
I think I'm finally getting bored of FPS's, I'm preferring 3rd person games, sports etc.
For me I think that to buy another FPS the entire genre needs a lift, wars current, present or sci fi have been done to death in their current format.IMO anyway.
I think I may wait for a FPS with a story and character that grabs me, that makes me want to play and survive etc, which I don't get from BF3, COD, MW, FEAR...anyone want to buy BF3 or MW3
bamozzy on 25 Jan '12 said:
To be honest I am fed up with Olde Worlde war games - WW2 has been done so many times - technology has moved on THANKFULLY!!!
I do want a good first person shooter with a good story - NO QTE!! and I don't care if snipers only have scopes or all guns have scopes. I don't want to see a future based war game though where you don't get gun on gun action and frontline warfare because the technology of the day has put a stop to it. I wouldn't mind a first person shooter with laser blasters/pistols (like Star Wars) maybe without the Jedi's though who deflect every shot.
Personally I wouldn't mind if it was set during WW3/5/10/25 or even inter-galactic if it plays right and has a good gun balance. Its the story and playability that makes the game - not the era!
I think the reason WW2 has been done so often is that things were more basic and therefore easier for the developer. Also the guns, weapons etc have all been made in reality, lots of pictures and videos of battlefields etc too has made it easier to try and recreate rather than creating a storyline and inventing weapons using imagination.
WW2 has been done - it is over and has been for many years now - move on....
razor6494 on 25 Jan '12 said:
ive always loved the WW2 era more than the modern times. i would love too see a great WW2 game be released. that sniper one looks cool-especially the MK x-ray touch. hopefully wont be cancelled
CunningSmile on 25 Jan '12 said:
Personally I find WW2 games a little disturbing and in poor taste. I have few problems with FPS games featuring totally fictional protagonists or modern soldiers who volunteer and are highly trained, but reliving the worst possible day of some poor sods life who was drafted into a war they probably didn't understand just leaves me feeling sick.
Was it MoH or CoD that recreated the D-Day landing? Half the people who took part in those attacks were killed or maimed and the rest were left mentally scarred for life, and we relive their nightmares for fun?
Guilty Sparks on 25 Jan '12 said:
Call of Duty 2 HD....... Now that i would love
Guilty Sparks on 25 Jan '12 said:
I personally didn't find it 'fun' i felt the emotion of what it must of been like on that dreadful day and as a result my knowledge and respect grew for what our service personnel do on a daily basis, but i do fully understand your viewpoint, however that wasn't the case for me.
Bezza89 on 25 Jan '12 said:
Yeah cunning both MoH and CoD and Saving Private Ryan have done D-Day landings. I see your point but you can say the same thing of modern shooters, more so probably what with the protagonists all being superheroes, it probably makes some people who play want to join and fight in Iraq/Afghanistan (maybe) not taking into account the psychological damage it can do to you as well as the realities of gunfights compared to the recreated whack-a-mole grenade happy enemies your against in these games.
Guilty - Call of Duty 2 is in HD... it's the best CoD game and probably the best WW2 game ever.
I wouldn't mind a return to WW2 as long as the story is right and there isn't a slew of them. Though I do think they have been rather over done. They're still doing Vietnam a bit aren't they (Blops)... I'd prefer more future FPS, apart from Halo there aren't any good ones I can recall.
Clanger67 on 25 Jan '12 said:
Yeah that's the problem so long as it doesn't open the floodgates again.I haven't really played that many ww2 on 360 it has been on other platforms so i don't think i am as "sick to death" of seeing them as some are.
terry cheyne on 25 Jan '12 said:
i'd prefer one set when guns were just invented in japan where it took a while to reload and hundreds of samuri running towards you to cut your head off as it would ad a bit if of thought like do you shoot that person or kill them with a sword so it would end up a cross of cod 2 and fps sword slashing can't get wrong with that
Guilty Sparks on 25 Jan '12 said:
I know its in HD Bezza, I meant COD 2 being re-made on an updated engine...... which i would love (sorry for confusion)
CunningSmile on 25 Jan '12 said:
I've long wanted to see a similar game set in the Napoleonic wars. Three shots a minute if you were really good and then all bayonnets and swords. You'd have to really consider if you wanted to shoot if would take you 30 seconds to reload.
Bezza89 on 25 Jan '12 said:
Halo Anniversary style? I get you. CoD and new engine in the same sentence though?
We can dream.
MasonCooper42 on 25 Jan '12 said:
yeah but then go and watch the start of saving private ryan, that should put the quick scopers and that crowd back in their seats when they realise just what sacfrices were made that month.
its something we all take for granted a hell of a lot,
also i dont remember too many games being set in the asian part of world war 2, medal of honor: rising sun was a quality one. World at war, but i dont remember too many others on consoles, perhaps i can be enlightened by someone here
and also, COD 2 had part of d-day, medal of honor allied assault had d-day as well.
MasonCooper42 on 25 Jan '12 said:
also i felt that the hamburg mission, in mw3, (the one where you SPOILERS have a hostage situation at the end of it) was almost a modern day d-day landing.
Clanger67 on 25 Jan '12 said:
Thing is they didn't like to talk about it at the time.I had two grandads that were in it and all i know is that one killed a lot of people even with his bare hands and got shot through the arse by a german sniper.And the other got captured by the japs and tortured by having slivers of bamboo rammed down his fingernails.My point being the media of the day couldn't get enough, but to keep reminding future generations and speaking for those around at the time